What do you make of this conversation in JLA?
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What do you make of this conversation in JLA?
A man's ethical behavior should be based on sympathy, education, and social ties and needs; no religious basis is necessary. Man would indeed be in a poor way if he had to be restrained by fear of punishment and hope of reward after death. Einstein
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I must have missed that issue of "Birds Of Prey". A threesome in the DCU. Wow. So does that make Lady BH and Huntress bisexual? If so, I hope DCU fans are vigorously up in arms about bisexuality being "shoved" down their throats. That's just classy Mr. Robinson. Make Hal seem cooler by by making Huntress and Lady Blackhawk slutty. Awesome. Why not have Hal in a threesome with another man? That would have been far more entertaining and realistic seeing his hard on for Green Arrow. Or the other way around for that matter. How does this shit get passed editorial? Gails gotta LOVE this.
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Actually, why does this make Huntress and Lady Blackhawk slutty? So when guys have sex they're "cooler," but the women they're having sex with are "sluts"? That's absolutely weird. And preposterous. The real problem here is in the obvious wish fulfillment. Neither Huntress nor Lady Blackhawk are the types of women who would go for this sort of thing. I'm not saying that they aren't sexual beings; they are. But what I'm saying is that they wouldn't be down for this type of action. Gail Simone summed it up best on another board: And I don't want to belabor this point, but if you had this scene with the genders reversed, people would be tearing their own heads off. Imagine it. HUNTRESS: I have a confession to make. LADY BLACKHAWK: If it's about you with Green Arrow, Green Lantern, and a bottle of grappa, I already know about it. All I can say is, "Well played, ma'am." HUNTRESS: You know about that? LADY BLACKHAWK: Everyone knows about that. Even Starfire was impressed and she once did a three-way with Blue Beetle and Booster Gold. I think the readers would have gotten a lynching party going by now. A man's ethical behavior should be based on sympathy, education, and social ties and needs; no religious basis is necessary. Man would indeed be in a poor way if he had to be restrained by fear of punishment and hope of reward after death. Einstein
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I actually DON'T think this makes them slutty. I just believe ( perhaps incorrectly) that this was Mr. Robinsons intention. Huntress had a history of promiscuity that Gail Simone cleaned up quite well in her Birds run and Lady BH was shown being confused by several sexual colloquialisms during her time in the book. Why choose these two women to use in your "throwaway joke"? Why would either of these women even SLEEP with Hal Jordan? He's a celebrated walking STD. There are handful of other woman that could have been used in this scenario but you instead decide to use two characters that were extremely well written from a critically acclaimed series to prop up the closet case who is Hal Jordan. It's so out of character it's not funny in the least and if Mr. Robinson wasn't being malicious on purpose ( and I put nothing pass DC at this time) then he's just a f*cking idiot still riding off the coattails of his past success. To me it read as if Robinson was saying they were nothing more than "jumpoffs" to make Hal seem cooler. He even mentions that "everybody heard about it- from Man Bat to Metamorpho" Again, in what instance would the friggin Huntress be hooking up with Hal? Why not just flashback about the time the two "Hard Traveling Heroes" tag teamed some thick chick in Nebraska and leave it like that. Why throw two strong/reformed female characters under the bus to prove for the 40,000th time how "manly" Hal Jordan is. We get it. He's NOT gay. "Everybody heard about it"...sheesh. Peace Last edited by stealmyluck on Mon Aug 03, 2009 5:55 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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It strikes me a gratuitous titillation. Although, perhaps that's taken out of context. If that revelation says something about this character that's essential to understanding his motivations and behavior, it would at least be "useful" to have been said, story wise. Does anybody know if that's the case here? I haven't seen this book or series yet. Myself, I'm just tired of characters all of sudden having a "sexual history." It almost feels like a well... contrivance... practically a retcon... to make the stories more "adult." Let's see if they do a story in which the video is suddenly is leaked to the Internet... PS: I assume Ollie's comment that "everybody from Man-Bat to Metamorpho" heard about Hal's hook-up about is meant to be a joke. If it's not a joke... think of the implications...
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It is slutty if they are not bisexual. It'd be like a straight dude having a male treeway just because he has the hots for the one female. But the point remains. And take it from someone that likes Hal. It's a cheap and undignified way to make Hal an Alpha dog. Ps. I buy Lady Blackhawk doing so, and I buy Hal getting a 2-girls threesome (there's background for that sort of behavior on him) but not the Huntress. I think only a real badass like Bruce or Dick could hit and run on her. Other than them, I think even Superman would have to buy her dinner a couple of times before getting some.
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Speaking as someone who's only truly famialiar with Huntress' personality in JLU, I think that folks are making too much of a big deal about this. I do in fact believe that the topic of sex is very fluid and women who enjoy sex should not be considered slutty. In my very short life that I've lived (still living) I've been surprised at a few "sexual stories" of folks that I would NEVER expect to hear and at times seem to contradict some stuff they said they'd never do.
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So, women who are bisexual are sluts? I'm not sure I follow you, Bruno. The only slut in that scenario--if someone has to be labeled with that completely inauthentic (and misogynistic) word--it's Hal. Your analysis is bizarre. You equate an all-male three-way with three-way involving two girls and a guy? Well, I'm not offended by either one of those set ups, but they are different. A threesome, by the way, does not necessarily involve bisexuality--particularly if the two women are not engaging each other sexually. But I think it's interesting (and telling) that you not only made that assumption as par for the course, but that you also equated that behavior with being a slut. You might want to be careful. You're beginning to sound like a homophobe. A man's ethical behavior should be based on sympathy, education, and social ties and needs; no religious basis is necessary. Man would indeed be in a poor way if he had to be restrained by fear of punishment and hope of reward after death. Einstein
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The problem here, as Gail Simone pointed out, is that the two female characters involved would not do this. And Robinson wrote this scene simply to make Hal look like a stud and give all the Hal dick-riders out there a boner as they imagine themselves as vicarious Hals. It's all so unimaginative and transparent. A man's ethical behavior should be based on sympathy, education, and social ties and needs; no religious basis is necessary. Man would indeed be in a poor way if he had to be restrained by fear of punishment and hope of reward after death. Einstein
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Another interpretation: Experienced Dom Huntress suspected Lady Blackhawk to be Dom-curious. Drink plus eager sub makes a perfect training opportunity.
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